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Post by BlueMoonWarrior on Jul 6, 2017 1:46:16 GMT -5
Brady, you have completely missed our point. We are only arguing with you because your union will not help to improve the server if you just completely refuse to help newer players. Whether they have 5 Rhines or 50,000 Rhines, everyone is the same and deserves an equal amount of help.
Aristocracy (definition) - "The highest class in certain societies, typically comprising people of noble birth holding hereditary titles and offices."
That definition is quite lierally what you are trying to achieve, collecting all the 'rich' players together and refusing to help the newer players.
If I am honest with you, I think your idea of a union is more of your attempt to control people on the server, look powerful in comparison to other players and be the richest on the server. This 'union' isn't much of a union, especially when union's are supposed to bring people together for the better of things but, you're being selective and ruling players out.
From my time on the Blockhermit server, I know that Seniors hate it when people start to rule others out and refuse to help them. The server is meant to be a place where everyone helps everyone else to achieve their goals on the server, not a place where people despise of each other and refuse to work together, purely because they are poorer or are new to the server.
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Post by CrashingCarrot on Jul 6, 2017 10:07:49 GMT -5
BRADY, that is the problem. Hayan's upset with how new players are treated. That's why they leave: because no one helps them. If you really wanted a union, you would need to gather everyone, even the new players. That's why everyone's arguing: because it does not fit the server at all. The server was made so players, young and old, new and returning, to come together as a group and have fun. Creating groups (which is against the server rules and has resulted in bans) separates people which was the complete opposite of what Hayan's goal for the server was.
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Post by Wixler_17 on Jul 6, 2017 13:11:23 GMT -5
i think you should temporarily stop the union until we completely have a solution to the servers fate
its for your good and ours
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Tiberaus
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Post by Tiberaus on Jul 7, 2017 2:03:12 GMT -5
Sounds like a cult if you ask me.
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Post by brady1190 on Jul 7, 2017 4:37:05 GMT -5
That goes for all of you. Our union is meant to make the server better. We dont accept players that recemtly joined the server in the union. This doesnt mean that we dont help them. I personally accept every day new players in my region accrington. I give them building materials armour and such stuff. Dont tell me that i have never helped the new players. I have spent money for them. But i didnt see any results. Most of them left the server because they died once and lost their stuff. Therefore i cant change anything. I do my best to help as many as i can. Right now i am able to help new players. Plus some seniors(i wont say names) ask me to host new players in my region. And that is what i do. I never refused to help. I always helped. Before a week there was a player called visceralfive who wanted to learn better fighting. I stopped my projects gave him armour and money and i taught him fighting. Yesterday another player named jcsjimel needed help with redstone. I stopped my projects again and went to help him. However there was no possible solution. His contraption was glitching. The point is that i helped him with sadly no success. Also i didnt get paid for all those if that is what you are going to say. So please tell me what you have done for new players. Have you done something like what i did? Have you spent over 80k for them? I guess not. So please stop trying to prove me wrong.
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Post by BlueMoonWarrior on Jul 7, 2017 10:35:10 GMT -5
You keep changing what you are saying to us. First, you say you refuse to help new players entirely, now you say you will. Make your mind up and get your facts in order before trying to argue against us.
Anyway, this argument has become pointless as you just refuse to understand our points and what we are saying. There is no point arguing with you, make your union or not, it is likely that it will only start causing issues like the last time people started making groups on the server, ending up with certain privilages being removed for at least a month.
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Post by Wixler_17 on Jul 7, 2017 11:19:36 GMT -5
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Can someone make up there mind, this is making me insane
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Post by CrashingCarrot on Jul 7, 2017 11:51:29 GMT -5
This is just gonna end up like djreed's argument: going full-circle 10 times before everyone just gives up. As the Sharks on Shark Tank so eloquently state: "I'm out."
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Post by Wixler_17 on Jul 7, 2017 13:25:05 GMT -5
Asta la vista
-Arnold
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Post by brady1190 on Jul 7, 2017 15:25:23 GMT -5
After the argument i understood some things. I will be helping newcomers though first i wouldnt.
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Jul 9, 2017 2:00:19 GMT -5
BRADY, that is the problem. Hayan's upset with how new players are treated. That's why they leave: because no one helps them. That's not completely true. Yesterday someone new joined the server. In chat I said "Welcome to the server! If you need any help feel free to message me! (/msg lieuwe_berg)" Then I came to spawn to tell them that all of the signs are very important, as well as the claim and shop section. When I did /spawn, there were already 2 other people! Brady and lamp. So I left again  |
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Post by CrashingCarrot on Jul 9, 2017 10:55:48 GMT -5
That was part of the reason was shutting down. Not the only reason, but I think people are helping new people because of this.
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Post by brady1190 on Jul 9, 2017 15:47:24 GMT -5
I am helping because i changed my mind about some things
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lieuwe_berg
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Jul 10, 2017 2:14:37 GMT -5
The new welcome msg does help though. Normally I never know who is new, but with the message I do 😂
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Post by BlueMoonWarrior on Jul 10, 2017 17:13:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I completely agree there. Now you can clearly see who is new when they join and give them a warm welcome to the server!
Good add to the server, Hayan.
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