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Post by Herobrine64 on Apr 16, 2018 10:17:12 GMT -5
I would like to call your attention to the hopper limit per chunk- 16. I personally feel as though this number is way too small, and would like to request that it change from 16 to 24, or maybe even 32. Or alternatively, make a request section where you could request more hoppers in a certain chunk. I am making a 4 chunk base, and I can’t really do much in the way of hoppers. That’s only 1 stack of hoppers to spread out arepubd my base, which is kid of ridiculous.
Thanks! -Herobrine64
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Post by veeesix on Apr 16, 2018 14:26:57 GMT -5
If you build between 4 corners the limit is suddenly bumped to 64.
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Post by Herobrine64 on Apr 16, 2018 17:16:10 GMT -5
If you build between 4 corners the limit is suddenly bumped to 64. I’m confused. If you build in a square, it’s increased?
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lieuwe_berg
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Apr 17, 2018 0:03:01 GMT -5
There is a hopper limit because there would most likely be much more lag without it. As long as the server isn't upgraded, the hopper limit won't be increased.
As for chunk abusing, that's actually not allowed veee, as some people (including me way back) have been told to remove that.
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AhmeTurky
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Post by AhmeTurky on Apr 17, 2018 0:04:42 GMT -5
If you build between 4 corners the limit is suddenly bumped to 64. That doesn't work for big redsone contraptions which requires more than 1 chunk. By the way, does hopper minecarts count in 16?
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lieuwe_berg
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Apr 17, 2018 0:06:39 GMT -5
Hopper minecarts do not count towards the hopper limit.
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Post by veeesix on Apr 17, 2018 0:42:49 GMT -5
Weird, I'll have to have a chat with the heads upstairs.
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kolas32613
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Post by kolas32613 on Apr 17, 2018 5:57:55 GMT -5
I do understand the need for the hopper limit and completely support it. But if the topic is being discussed i would like to suggest something. Many builds which require more than a couple of hoppers usually require more than 16 hoppers. Also there are usually only one or two builds with hoppers involved, usually a storage system or a smelting array. I was wondering if a player can be allowed to cross the limit only for couple of builds that too upto a limit(higher than 16). Also this would require permission first by posting a request on the forums. This would help players plan such builds better as right now the only other way is to make the build at chunk borders. Also players would be required to post the design along with the request and must make changes if directed to. Also some changes help in lag reduction as well as demonstrated by ilmango here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINcXy-ajiUI do not know how feasible this is and if it is even possible to allow different limits without help from a senior. This is just a suggestion I wanted to make since this topic was brought up.
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Post by HayanTokki on Apr 17, 2018 9:23:44 GMT -5
Hopper limit is global. If we increase it for one person, we have to increase it for everyone.
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Post by Herobrine64 on Apr 17, 2018 11:12:46 GMT -5
I do understand the need for the hopper limit and completely support it. But if the topic is being discussed i would like to suggest something. Many builds which require more than a couple of hoppers usually require more than 16 hoppers. Also there are usually only one or two builds with hoppers involved, usually a storage system or a smelting array. I was wondering if a player can be allowed to cross the limit only for couple of builds that too upto a limit(higher than 16). Also this would require permission first by posting a request on the forums. This would help players plan such builds better as right now the only other way is to make the build at chunk borders. Also players would be required to post the design along with the request and must make changes if directed to. Also some changes help in lag reduction as well as demonstrated by ilmango here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINcXy-ajiUI do not know how feasible this is and if it is even possible to allow different limits without help from a senior. This is just a suggestion I wanted to make since this topic was brought up. I agree, so maybe they should add a section to the forums to apply for more hoppers per chunk?
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Tiberaus
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Post by Tiberaus on Apr 17, 2018 11:15:51 GMT -5
I think the hopper limit is very reasonable and shouldn't be increased. I do, however, think it would be a good idea to allow some exceptions to this rule on a case-by-case basis. For example, if I'm making something that's larger than 4x4 chunks, I would be allowed to add more hoppers if I can justify its importance (i.e. community build.)
Either way, if you make friends with a senior they might do you a favor. :)
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Post by Cobbett on Apr 17, 2018 13:03:40 GMT -5
The plugin that does the hopper limits is quite basic (and somewhat buggy) and we aren't able to adjust the limits for a single player, only remove them entirely.
Hoppers are one of the main sources of lag, we can have thousands of them loaded at times. There are things I can do to reduce the lag more, but it would make hopper timers very unreliable.
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Post by Herobrine64 on Apr 17, 2018 13:06:56 GMT -5
The plugin that does the hopper limits is quite basic (and somewhat buggy) and we aren't able to adjust the limits for a single player, only remove them entirely. Hoppers are one of the main sources of lag, we can have thousands of them loaded at times. There are things I can do to reduce the lag more, but it would make hopper timers very unreliable. It’s just I’m making a 4 chunk base, so that limits me to 64 hoppers, with 16 in each chunk. Very limited.
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Post by HayanTokki on Apr 18, 2018 8:22:21 GMT -5
But as limited as it makes the server for you, we are able to keep a relatively well server for everyone else because we limit your hoppers. I would suggest looking for a server with no hopper limits if our server's limits are too limiting. Not saying this to be offensive, we want you to have what you want. Our server just can't give it to you is all.
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Post by Floki_Raven on Apr 20, 2018 7:18:36 GMT -5
Stupid question .... why dont you just extend your base larger than 4 chunks? Its not like we are crampt on space in minecraft.
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