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Post by malvidian on Dec 16, 2017 12:33:02 GMT -5
So I am not in the business of doing posts like this, nor have I had a reason to. However, the events of this morning aggravated me so much, that I had to say something.
So I am excavating a large portion of my base underneath, and just this morning got my super beacon working. I was so happy that I could instant mine, so I mentioned it in chat. TheChillC offered to help me excavate, and I was cool with that. However, the /trust command (required if he is to break blocks for me), also gave him full access to my chests. Now, I would never assume if someone asked me to help them dig a hole, that I would also be able to look in all their chests and rummage through their stuff. However, that is exactly what he did within a few seconds of getting trust. Seriously, what made him think he was allowed to go through my chests? He claimed he was looking for food. Well then ASK ME. Which he actually did do the first time, and I gave him a half a stack of mutton. Then I leave to go to the EB to repair my pick. I return to him again going through my chests.. again saying that he is only looking for food (Seriously? How'd you go through half a stack of mutton in 5 mins?). Well unless your unable to READ, there was a sign on a chest in all capitals - "FOOD". But you proceeded to open and look through almost every other chest passing right over the food chest. I watched you do it. That seems to me that you are looking for something to steal. I have a couple chests that I dump general 'good' stuff in, and they are kinda jumbled, and unorganized, so I can't really tell if anything is missing at the moment. And I guess I never will.
This kind of behavior is exactly why I don't trust (in general, not just with /trust) people. I thought since this server seems more friendly, I could gamble with extending a little trust to someone that I had helped before, and it backfired. No one has any respect. I guess he is just a child with very little life experience, because that would explain the complete lack of manners, and disrespectful attitude.
Suffice to say, this completely soured my mood today.
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Midnight_Blade
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Post by Midnight_Blade on Dec 16, 2017 13:35:38 GMT -5
Well for one u need to go to the player reports, and report him, and second, that SUCKS. Some people can be trusted some cant.
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lieuwe_berg
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Dec 16, 2017 14:06:15 GMT -5
Happily not everyone on the server is like this. This happened to me too (also while excavating) and I reported it on the forum and a senior took a look at what he took. You could do the same since this isn't gonna do anything but create a discussion.
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Post by veeesix on Dec 16, 2017 14:19:43 GMT -5
Not to point the finger at you specifically, but I'm surprised by the amount of players that are able to say 'trust me' and fool anyone unsuspecting of any ill intent. I mean, the key word is in the command, "trust". If you don't trust someone, simply don't give it to them.
Maybe next time try and re-organize the claim to keep your chests protected.
Sorry you got duped by TheChillC, Mal.
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Post by malvidian on Dec 16, 2017 15:34:50 GMT -5
I decided to not make this a player 'report' because I shouldn't need to. I called him out. You all know what kind of player he is now, and what he will do to your claims if you trust him. I honestly do not even care if he took any of my stuff. It is the complete lack of respect to just go rooting in someones chests to BEGIN with that got me pissed off. He may have taken nothing. He may have been telling the truth he was just looking for food (again, after I already gave him a bunch). However, ASKING and then WAITING for me to get it would have been the correct course of action. Not simply helping yourself. I guess no more needs to be said about it.. just upsetting the player base here is not more trustworthy.
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Post by YupPup on Dec 16, 2017 16:24:40 GMT -5
the chill c offered me help with moving villagers. I didn't need help but I thought I'd let him see what I was doing, maybe give him a mending book because I just got the villager. he started breaking stuff and asking for perms. red flags! But I had invited him to my wilderness and the wilderness is a dangerous place because you feel safe and don't claim everything. anyway he rummagged thru my messy chests, poking around my farms and after a while he started to make inappropriate jokes and I felt uncomfortable and muted him. I logged on today to find my wheat farm broken. the floor was torn up a bit and for some reason some glowstone was stolen. like... glowstone. my villagers had gotten out and were wandering around, one of them even died. this wasn't that hard to fix but it was a huge pain. its such a small thing that it seems petty to report so I wasn't going to but after seeing this I think I will.
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Post by LayaElisabeth on Dec 16, 2017 16:33:44 GMT -5
Can you please DO make a report about this?
I've come to know that thechillc uses false pretenses to gain trust, with the intention of stealing stuff, but so far, none of the victims bothered to make a report, so we can't take actions in the matter, which allows him to continue his scamming.
Also for future references, you can use the command /subdivideclaims and a golden shovel to mark a smaller (of multiple) claim within your claim. That subdivided claim allows you to trust people in areas without them being able to touch anything else.
example; if you have a donations chest you want people to access, but not touch all the rest, you can subdivide the blocks of that chest and use accesstrust. If you want people to help with a build, you can subclaim that build but keep all your other stuff safe. You can even subclaim 1 single block with a botton on it to give people accesstrust
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Post by malvidian on Dec 16, 2017 17:35:06 GMT -5
Okay... Now this is even more aggravating:
So Laya, are you telling me that you (the seniors) knew about this players behavior? You knew that he "uses false pretenses to gain trust, with the intention of stealing stuff"??
Then why is he still allowed on the server?
Very simple question that I shouldn't really have to ask. "none of the victims bothered to make a report, so we can't take actions in the matter, which allows him to continue his scamming" WHAT?!? If you are aware of illegal behavior, have evidence to prove it, yet do nothing simply because no one said anything, then you are complicit in that behavior yourselves. You allowed him to continue unabated. That is like saying a fireman won't try to save a burning house, or a policeman won't stop a murderer, until someone calls 911 first.. If they see it happen, they are gonna do something about it, whether or not someone asked them to. Because it is the right thing to do.
This discussion thread, with 3 different people calling him out, should easily constitute as a 'report'.
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MrOhios
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Post by MrOhios on Dec 16, 2017 23:32:29 GMT -5
Im with Laya on this one. If no one reports the issue then what are they going to do. I have been staff on a large server before, heck I ran the staff team, and I can tell you that you cant deal with everything that happens. The word Trust is used to /trust someone. I have one huge claim and tons of subclaims in my region. Only people I TRUST get /trust in the claim. And people who are just "helping" me get /trust in just the subclaim. Im not trying to sound rude but its like inviting thief's to your house and expecting them not to steal your TV.
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lieuwe_berg
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Post by lieuwe_berg on Dec 17, 2017 4:06:07 GMT -5
Okay... Now this is even more aggravating: So Laya, are you telling me that you (the seniors) knew about this players behavior? You knew that he "uses false pretenses to gain trust, with the intention of stealing stuff"?? Then why is he still allowed on the server? Very simple question that I shouldn't really have to ask. "none of the victims bothered to make a report, so we can't take actions in the matter, which allows him to continue his scamming" WHAT?!? If you are aware of illegal behavior, have evidence to prove it, yet do nothing simply because no one said anything, then you are complicit in that behavior yourselves. You allowed him to continue unabated. That is like saying a fireman won't try to save a burning house, or a policeman won't stop a murderer, until someone calls 911 first.. If they see it happen, they are gonna do something about it, whether or not someone asked them to. Because it is the right thing to do. This discussion thread, with 3 different people calling him out, should easily constitute as a 'report'. She clearly said she didn't know it before, but does now; because of the thread you have made. She does not have evidence. Evidence is that she, or any other senior has used prism on the chests to see everything that has been taken or put into the chest and by who. She does not have that. First off you didn't want to make a player report, but now you want him off the server Make a player report containing the coords of where it happened (what chests), screenshots and all the information the seniors need to know. |
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Post by YupPup on Dec 17, 2017 15:43:01 GMT -5
ayy BH announcement calling out The Chill C
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Midnight_Blade
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Post by Midnight_Blade on Dec 17, 2017 18:09:15 GMT -5
lol yea, hes finally been taken care of
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Post by veeesix on Dec 17, 2017 20:11:04 GMT -5
Always goes to show how one small report can snowball into a big deal. GG guys.
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MrOhios
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Post by MrOhios on Dec 18, 2017 0:02:49 GMT -5
If anyone would like to stop this from happening in your claim I would suggest watching this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FLCFam5LI It will teach you how to make subclaims. I have people mining out areas for me all the time with a 20k beacon sitting there and its never stolen. Why is that.... Because its subclaimed. I do this with every single chest I have in my region. That way I can allow someone into 1 set of chests without the others. Im not saying you deserved anything that may or may not have happened but atleast protect yourself from it possibly happening once again. |
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Post by LayaElisabeth on Dec 19, 2017 6:40:17 GMT -5
Well this is very simple.. Because; if nobody bothers to file a report, as you yourself said you didn't want to be bothered with at first. If YOU don't care enough to even report the guy and neither does anyone else.. then why should WE bother to take measures? I practivally BEGGED iron62 and iri to file a report. Also, your weird out of context metaphor; if you know someone set their kitchen on fire, and the firemen go out to see what's wrong, and the people you WANT to help just send you away, then no.. i'm NOT complicit at all. Also with your metaphor.. so, you allow someone you don't know IN your house, give them the means to steal from you and you expect US to be all around to what exactly?? If a policeman tries to arrest a burglar, but all victims go like; well, i invited him in my house and i don't really care what he did, i'll just yell at him but please let him free (YES, THE EXACT SAME THING YOU DID!!) how on earth, do you have the audacity to tell seniors what to do? Btw, there's also a court that decides wether or not someone's guilty of a crime based on evidence. Wwithout player reports, we had none. And me not liking the guy personally on the grounds of him appearing shady, isn't enough to ban someone, cause trust me, i'd kick way more players off the server if it was just up to me. the ball was in your court, and you just stood by and did nothing untill i told you to.. So please, get off your high horse, and do NOT hold us, seniors accountable for other people's stupidity! Okay... Now this is even more aggravating: So Laya, are you telling me that you (the seniors) knew about this players behavior? You knew that he "uses false pretenses to gain trust, with the intention of stealing stuff"?? Then why is he still allowed on the server? Very simple question that I shouldn't really have to ask. "none of the victims bothered to make a report, so we can't take actions in the matter, which allows him to continue his scamming" WHAT?!? If you are aware of illegal behavior, have evidence to prove it, yet do nothing simply because no one said anything, then you are complicit in that behavior yourselves. You allowed him to continue unabated. That is like saying a fireman won't try to save a burning house, or a policeman won't stop a murderer, until someone calls 911 first.. If they see it happen, they are gonna do something about it, whether or not someone asked them to. Because it is the right thing to do. This discussion thread, with 3 different people calling him out, should easily constitute as a 'report'. |
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